Recreational drugs can be categorized as those changing state but not traits (e.g., cocaine, alcohol) and those changing both state and traits if used correctly (e.g., psilocybin, MDMA).

“you know there are certain drugs alcohol being a drug as well where they change your state I love I've heard this podcast you did love yes but they don't change traits and then there are others that change your state and if you use them correctly they can change your traits Y and so I said and by the way there are legal and illegal molecules in both of those camps and that's worth noting and respecting”