the fact that you can get increased absorption of creatine after a workout is really cool so like I think what you're doing is amazing like a pound of red meat after a workout that's the bet that's probably the best time right because it's going to go straight in those muscles and a pound of meat maybe two grams of creatine but that that two grams is going to have an increased absorption post workout so that's the kind of right so that's probably like if someone's supplementing five grams who knows but something yeah that could I mean possibly equal the same yes because it's it's it's absorbed it's absorbed a little better and the carbohydrates are going in more because you have the glycogen window and things you're just you it's the body is saying give me the nutrients so especially after a workout people should be getting people should be getting in a little bit of salt protein carbohydrates and creatine that's probably the best formula possible