if we MRI an elite athlete a lot of times I'll look at their MRI and go oh my God you must be in horrible discomfort and they go really not feel fine you know they've got all these disc bulges and herniations and whatnot and they're completely asymptomatic and then he'll he said we'll have sedentary people come in and they'll be in excruciating pain and I'll pull up their MRI and they've just got a little tiny dis bulge