Eric Heiden apparently was about 14 and a half minutes up old la Honda which was and remains to my knowledge the record up that hill and I used to I had a model that I built that would calculate how many watts you needed to average to go up that hill and I forgot I don't think I've ever plugged Eric's time into it but it wouldn't surprise me if that were a 600 watt effort given his body weight he's a big guy eric is very big and heavy quad dominant athlete so I mean I should go back and do that but I think for someone Eric's weight to have gone up that in 14 and a half minutes it's hard for me to imagine he could have done that at less than 600 watts