the literature around fasting and around sort of autophagy is is not as clear as I once thought it was it's it's kind of murky and I'm just not convinced number one that you need to fast to have autophagy if you look at markers of autophagy our body is always kind of doing this our body is always using ubiquitination of proteins and recycling them and there's some evidence that you're doing just as much aagy when you're eating is when when you're not