so the first thing that somebody has to do is start out by having a periodic periods of fasting that in in my own case I do it once a week usually between Friday and Saturday I fans for at least fourteen or sixteen hours you know it's not difficult to do if you have an early meal in a late brunch you will have significant fasting and you can accelerate that process by consuming some of the circulating glucose if you do a workout the morning so by doing that I am allowing my body to build up these ketogenic enzymes and therefore then during a regular day in the week if I don't need anything between meals I don't feel hungry because I can consume my own body fat