something like fasting seems very simple and it's simple of course to do but it has such a set of plea atrophic extensions and benefits that it's very unlikely that it's about all or none there's nothing black and white here it's really all these shades of gray that it's not intuitive when you look at them what the net effect is because it's a little bit of this a little bit of that more of this than that it's the balance of this versus that