these subjects were fasted for a very long period of time I mean these were 40-day water-only fasts so these individuals had beta hydroxy beate levels of four to five Millo which actually exceeded glucose concentration by this point glucose concentration would have been about 3 Millo in steady state so for folks listening to us who don't think in European terms 3 Millo of glucose means these people were walking around with a blood glucose of 55 milligrams per deciliter but it really never went below that so that's obviously pretty hypoglycemic but it's you know that's still 60% of what you would walk around with normally and glucose was meeting about 50% of their brains demand and about the other 50% was coming from the BHB