The research supporting high plant-based and low meat diets, as presented by Joel Fuhrman, is of low quality.

“i believe that i would bristle at anyone you know i don't think that it's completely garbage we can draw there's an association there from which we can draw a hypothesis which needs to be tested but that it's it's low quality it's low quality research that we should not base decisions on especially when we have interventional research with red meat that suggests the opposite when we have human evolution which is clearly a path taken with a lot of meat and organ consumption and when we have conflicting epidemiology done in places with a different narrative surrounding it”