Useful principles can be extracted from 12-step programs.

“you've got to take a Bruce Lee approach so you know if you know if you understood how well how Bruce Lee created jeet kune do-- he said look every martial art boxing wrestling all these fighting forms each of them has something to offer and each of them has things that are utterly useless and will get you killed in a street fight I want to absorb what is useful discard what is useless and create this perfect thing jeet kune do-- and in many ways what you might extract from AAA might be different than what I would extract from it but I do think that there is value in these steps”