Paul Saladino· MD
and so there is data on the other end that this wood is valuable for humans especially as we age in terms of immune function other things and so perhaps that's where it boils down to but I think that the entire conversation must be framed around this idea which is really how I get involved in this which is is a I would say for most humans who are not ketogenic is a 20% increase in apob going to increase your risk of cardiovascular disease in any significant way when you include more red meat or organs or nutrient-rich foods that also happen to be rich in saturated fats and lower in polyunsaturated fats we talked about why those may have different effects on your LDL levels or AP levels is that going to affect your cardiovascular risk in any particularly negative or positive way and that's that's the important part of the conversation because my impression perhaps it's wrong from the other side and I guess I shouldn't make it so so tribal but the other the other perspective is that that will increase your risk and and I think that there's a lot of things to suggest that it won't