An 'over-management' approach to health can be a hard pattern to address internally.

“and then of course you have probably where I think I used to live and I think there are a lot of people though not nearly as many who also live here which is the over management which is you're you're going to be perfect you're going to be by any objective measure you're going to have it perfectly dialed in with respect to your health right you're going to eat like a robot exercise like a robot sleep like a robot Etc that's probably a harder one to get people to look inside and see isn't it”