I teach them how to breathe in ways they can actually bring down their heart rate so I sort of call this act of meditation when you're in a meeting what is your average resting heart rate and I don't know if you've done this before but it's interesting when I commute to work or I'm sitting in meetings I think I'm calm and I look at my heart rates like 20 points above my resting and then I just breathe through that and all this and the number comes down and a lot of my patients that have done that throughout the day they brought their blood pressure down dramatically