Many meaningful activities, such as raising a family, making music, playing sports, pursuing faith, or building a business, require collaboration and cannot be done alone.

“also that huge numbers of just very practical things that mean anything to us just can't be done except in some form of relationship so whether what you care about is uh raising a family making music uh playing sports uh being pursuing a sort of a religious Faith or you know building a business or um being a political activist like it a million different kinds of things that that that uh energize people but they all that in common that need to collaborate”