Pride can be derived from achievements, difficult work, and generative drive, not solely from external validation.

“just as someone who has worked and learned and studyed you know could feel good about the achievements they have or someone who goes to a difficult job that doesn't provide them with satisfaction that they feel as backbreaking labor and underpaid but they go and do that and they take home a salary that supports a family and puts a roof over people's heads feel proud of that”