Paul Saladino· MD
the only way to begin even begin to make those seeds nuts legumes whatever safe for human consumption is to trick it into thinking it's in the right environment that it lets down those defenses and the first time i i realized this um i was doing that same show in ireland i i don't know i think i stole the story in the book i forget but um there was it was actually a vegan episode for a series called what are you eating in ireland and i get a call from the producer like listen it was the year i was living in ireland and they said we're doing a show we'd like to have you on it as a guest oh that sounds great um what's the show about and he said veganism and i said i don't think i'm the right person for this why would you ask me he's like no no no the host is gonna um uh go on he's gonna get all this blood work done and he's gonna go on a vegan diet for like three months and then go and get blood work done at the end to see the changes in during the three months he's going to interview a lot of the members of the vegan community in ireland which is actually quite strong in ireland and then what we want to do to kind of wrap it all up is we'd like you to come out um with us you know maybe we go in the woods somewhere and you can make walk us through pre-history of uh in human diets maybe you can make a few stone tools do a few things i said oh okay that i'm comfortable with that so he comes out i had a couple of my graduate students out there and we had some deer and some rabbits and some ducks and they're butchering them with stone tools and i i'm i'm making some stone tools with the guy on camera and we're talking through the pre-history of of the human diet and when animals come in and how important they are and then he says hey pick up one of those ducks for me and cut it open and pull everything out on the inside and i'm like on camera he's like yeah like on camera yeah it's ireland and i didn't really know what that meant but okay so i cut open this duck i reached all the way up inside i mean all the way up to the neck i pulled everything out and i had it laying out on my arm on my forearm and i look down at the anatomy of this duck which is a grenivorous bird these ducks are designed to eat grains that's what they do and i realized the importance of how their anatomy uh allows them to do this and what we don't have so the when a a grenivorous bird eats a grain they it goes into their mouth and it goes into what we call a crop and that crop is an enlarged pouch that where the grains it's a warm moist environment where the grains will sit sometimes for 14 or 16 hours and during that time incredible transformations happen even though it's just sitting there it's sitting in a warm moist environment which is exactly where a seed wants to be to support new life think about when you plant seeds into the ground right so it it soaks it ferments and sometimes even sprouts and that's the power that begins the um the detoxification of these seeds and also the breakdown of these seeds and getting them ready for consumption then it goes down into what they call a gizzard if anybody's taken apart a chicken or a turkey you've seen these things and they're two muscular discs and these carnivorous birds eat gravel on purpose they eat rocks and those rocks sit in between these discs and literally they're stone grinding these grains that have already been through that chemical transformation in the crop and then it goes into a digestive tract which for all intents and purposes for this conversation operates very similar to ours and i'm thinking oh my god other than other than baking you know the actual fire they're making sourdough bread in their in their anatomies is exactly what they're doing um and so on then i'm thinking to myself wow we don't have any of those things at all and we're just trying to eat these grains that have been ground but have been through none of the rest of the process and i was wondering to myself as i'm looking at this duck and this is all in like 30 seconds but i'm thinking all these things um if i was able to take a grain and bypass those two things uh the crop and the gizzard and and stick that into their digestive tract which the part that operates like ours i wonder what would happen but then i'm like i'll never know i'll never know what would happen and then i found out the answer to it a couple years ago when i heard about a disease called angel wing disease an angel wing disease is what happens to ducks and geese uh that are in city parks and the old people or q o people are sitting there feeding them wonder bread they're eating this bread and they get uh all sorts of um malformations because of uh nutrient deficiencies and here's here's just the power of the technology they're eating essentially when they're eating the wonder bread they're eating what they're designed to eat right they're eating grains but they're eating grains that have been put through our modern system that screws them all up and that ability to soak and sprout and ferment is no longer there once it's cooked so they're not even though they're eating grains they're not allowing their bodies to do what it needs to do and they actually get all sorts of malformations and you know they look all crippled and they have all sorts of all sorts of issues and that's exactly what we're doing to ourselves as humans when we're eating those grains in a modern industrial food system sense now