Plants should be considered on a toxicity spectrum, and the inclusion of foods with potential for harm, like kale and brassica vegetables, should be questioned if they lack unique benefits.

“i think that it's just important to consider that when we're designing an optimal diet for humans we need to have this consideration of plants as on a toxicity spectrum and for me the question remains why would we include these foods in our diet why would we include and again we're we're getting to the point i think we may have to do a part two or something for this discussion because i think that nobody listens beyond this point i wanted to keep it a little more succinct than this but i think that the question that becomes like why would we include kale why would we include brassica vegetables in the diet if if they don't have a unique benefit and there's a potential mechanistically for harm”