Mouse studies often use high-fat, high-sugar diets to induce obesity, which is different from a high-fat diet alone.

“But in those studies, it's not just a highfat diet. It's a highfat, high sugar diet. Right. So, they're making some insanely hyper palatable It's you know, the closest I can come up with is they're making a donut. Yes. Right. It's a fried dough, sugar food. And uh you know, so they're making basically donuts for these monkeys. And that's different than saying it's a highfat thing.”