Use a secondary 'bat phone' limited to calls and podcasts to manage phone usage and reduce distractions.

“if I want to avoid that I have have to come up with an alternative and that's where my bat phone is a good alternative right like if I'm going somewhere where I need a phone to make phone calls but I don't want to have anything to do I just bring my second phone my bat phone which doesn't have email on it it I don't even know the phone number Nobody Knows the phone number so it never gets a text message”