Long-term fat loss requires initial focus on 'getting healthy' through diet and resistance training before pursuing extreme leanness.

“people need to get very clear on that first and then that'll dictate you know what approach I would recommend but just assuming someone wants to like hey I want long-term health and you know healthy body fat the first thing is I it's like okay what if what have you been doing and things like that but basically you need to get healthy personal”