Genetic tests indicating an increased risk of heart disease or diabetes are not very helpful compared to phenotypic assessment.

“I I I I think this is an area where I probably differ from a lot of the current crop of people who love Precision medicine and that I don't find that information very helpful I think that if you go deep enough on the phenotypic side you will get that information and you will get it in in an even better way and you will have a metric with which to track as you try to reverse the process”