Carnivore vs Traditional Chinese Medicine, A friendly debate with Josh Axe

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Paul Saladino58m · 2021-02-02

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Well SupportedOrgan meats are among the most nutrient-dense foods, providing nutrients essential for optimal brain and bone development.Well SupportedLegumes, such as raw red kidney beans, can cause hospitalization or death if not prepared properly through soaking and long-term cooking.Well SupportedZinc deficiency is linked to increased gut permeability, and zinc from animal foods supports gut barrier integrity.Partially SupportedThere is no single diet that fits all individuals; while some principles and foods work for certain people, no one diet is universally effective.Partially Supported

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Piperine enhances curcumin absorption by inhibiting the body's detoxification enzyme, UDP-glucuronosyltransferase (UGT).

Well SupportedCollagen is the most abundant protein in the body, comprising 20-40% of body proteins and significant amounts of bone tissue, joints, ligaments, and tendons.

Well SupportedPiperine in black pepper enhances the bioavailability of curcumin by inhibiting a liver detoxification enzyme.

Well SupportedOrgan meats are beneficial for everyone, and the Western diet's overemphasis on muscle meat is a mistake.

Well SupportedIncorporating nutrient-dense animal foods like muscles and organs may benefit the majority of the population.

Partially SupportedPlant molecules used as medicine can have both desired and undesired effects, similar to pharmaceutical molecules, and require careful consideration due to their potency.

Well SupportedDr. Paul Saladino has been eating a fully carnivorous diet for approximately two years and reports thriving without major medical problems.

Well SupportedAn omega-6 to omega-3 fatty acid ratio of approximately 4:1 or less is desirable for reducing inflammation.

Well SupportedHuman ancestors primarily favored animal meat and organs as their main food source, with plants serving as fallback foods that required extensive detoxification.

Partially SupportedThe carnivore diet and animal-based diets are considered effective by some individuals, with variations allowing for some plant foods.

Partially SupportedIndigenous cultures historically prepared plants through methods like fermentation to mitigate toxins and anti-nutrients.

Partially SupportedMany wild plants are toxic and can cause illness or death if consumed without proper identification and detoxification.

Partially SupportedOrgan meat and connective tissue are among the top three dietary components people are currently missing.

Partially SupportedIn TCM, liver and heart were historically prescribed for blood deficiency (anemia), alongside herbs like dong quai, peony, and astragalus.

Partially SupportedOkinawan males have a life expectancy 2.2 years greater than the general Japanese male population.

Not SupportedTurmeric's anti-inflammatory properties do not fix the underlying problem causing inflammation.

Well SupportedHumans are generally more insulin resistant in the evening.

Well SupportedConsuming a large amount of carbohydrates after a workout has a different effect on blood glucose than consuming them before bed.

Partially SupportedEating carbohydrates earlier in the day may be beneficial due to lower insulin resistance and less pancreatic taxation.

Partially SupportedIndividual responses to plant-based foods like sweet potatoes, honey, squash, and fruit vary significantly.

Partially SupportedTaking medications can lead to nutrient depletion, requiring more medications.

Partially SupportedGrains like rice should be sprouted and cooked for a very long time.

Partially SupportedBone broth and organ meats are essential components of a healthy diet for specific individuals and conditions.

Partially SupportedAntibiotics deplete the body of zinc, which is essential for repairing the digestive lining.

Partially SupportedPaul Saladino advises caution about plant consumption due to plant toxins.

Not SupportedHerbs may be less effective as modern supplements compared to traditional use.

Partially SupportedAncestral Supplements and Heart and Soil are considered high-quality desiccated organ supplements.

Partially SupportedChinese medicine rarely recommends consuming raw plants as they are often considered toxic and require processing.

Partially SupportedConsuming as much fat as tolerated may increase fat tolerance over time.

Partially SupportedSquash is a non-sweet fruit.

Partially SupportedPlants can be valuable as medicine, distinct from their role as food.

Partially SupportedIn Traditional Chinese Medicine, hypothyroidism may be linked to excessive fear, worry, obsessing, and overanalyzing.

Partially SupportedEmotional health is as significant as dietary intake for health problems.

Partially SupportedThe emotion of fear can cause kidney dysfunction, leading to issues like bedwetting.

Partially SupportedAnger can cause liver toxicity and contribute to liver disease.

Partially SupportedRemoving carbohydrates can allow the pancreas to regenerate and heal in individuals with worry and anxiety whose pancreas is under stress.

Partially SupportedConsuming foods that nourish the digestive system and using adaptogens or increasing sleep and reducing stress can address autoimmune and adrenal issues.

Partially SupportedTraditional Chinese Medicine utilized organs and nose-to-tail eating for human health.

Partially SupportedThe book 'Ancient Remedies' covers topics such as circadian rhythm charts, foods, and organ meats.

Partially SupportedA lack of collagen and nutrients found in bone broth contributes to joint problems in athletes and the elderly, despite good muscle health.

Partially SupportedThe speaker's typical daily meals consist of a collagen/bone broth smoothie for breakfast, chicken and vegetable soup for lunch, and meat with cooked vegetables for dinner.

Partially SupportedConsuming meat and vegetables can maintain nutrient levels and prevent the body from becoming toxic.

Not SupportedAnxiety drugs can deplete melatonin, leading to sleep problems and potentially requiring prescription sleep medication.

Partially SupportedType 2 diabetes can be reversed by eliminating carbohydrates and consuming a diet primarily of meat and vegetables, potentially with cinnamon.

Partially SupportedDietary recommendations should be highly personalized, as 'one man's food is another man's poison'.

Partially SupportedJosh Axe and Paul Saladino agree on the importance of eating nose-to-tail and the value of organs in the diet.

Partially SupportedTraditional Chinese Medicine suggests cooking foods, especially in broth or soup, helps the body process them more easily.

Partially SupportedThe six evils in TCM represent patterns of internal imbalance: excess heat or cold, dampness or dryness, and wind or stagnation.

Partially SupportedThe carnivore diet principles, particularly regarding meat consumption, are largely agreed upon, though some individuals may benefit from including more plants.

Partially SupportedIndividuals who do not feel well with high fat intake can adjust their diet to ensure they are getting the right nutrients and what works for them.

Not SupportedConventional medical treatment for Hashimoto's thyroiditis, such as immune suppressants and Synthroid, does not address the root cause.

Partially SupportedTraditional golden milk recipes combine turmeric with warming spices and fat sources to increase nutrient bioavailability.

Partially SupportedCollagen constitutes one-third of the body's total protein and is a primary component of connective tissue and fascia.

Partially SupportedSour and fermented foods are recommended to activate the liver and promote bile release according to TCM.

Partially SupportedAstragalus is used in the fall and ginger as winter approaches.

Partially SupportedBitter foods are recommended in TCM to dry up 'dampness' in the body.

Partially SupportedConsuming foods that reduce dampness, such as squashes and grass-fed beef, is recommended.

Partially SupportedPlants have a toxicity spectrum and should not be used incorrectly.

Partially SupportedSeasonal eating aligns with evolutionary or ancestral principles.

Not SupportedPrescription antibiotics kill beneficial gut bacteria, increasing the risk of cancer and autoimmune disease.

Partially SupportedFear triggers the adrenal glands to produce adrenaline and stress hormones.

Partially SupportedHerbs are stronger than vegetables, and spices are stronger than herbs in terms of their impact on the body.

Partially SupportedWithin Traditional Chinese Medicine, cooked vegetables were often used for detoxification.

Partially SupportedIn the fall, Josh Axe consumes pumpkin, spaghetti squash, grass-fed beef, and turkey.

Partially SupportedEating cooked foods is recommended over raw foods to avoid digestive issues like gas.

Partially SupportedEating sprouted and long-cooked foods makes the speaker feel their best.

Partially SupportedIndividuals on Coumadin (warfarin) should increase their Coumadin dosage rather than avoid vitamin K-rich foods.

Partially SupportedGrief, depression, loss, or unaccomplished life goals can weaken the immune system, increasing the risk of viral infections and autoimmune diseases.

Partially SupportedLiver is the most important organ meat to consume, especially for individuals on medication.

Partially SupportedAnxiety and nervousness can raise blood pressure and increase the risk of heart disease.

Partially SupportedProton pump inhibitors and H2 blockers deplete nutrients, which are primarily obtained from meat and organs.

Partially SupportedNourishing the digestive system with appropriate foods is necessary to address the root causes of Hashimoto's thyroiditis.

Partially SupportedAncient doctors and traditional medicine systems understood the importance of herb combining and synergistic effects.

Partially SupportedHypothyroidism may be caused by excessive fear.

Partially SupportedA diet high in meat, sprouted and long-cooked rice, and sprouted and long-cooked oats, consumed seasonally, promotes optimal well-being.

Partially SupportedThe human upper GI system and pancreas are strongest in the fall, indicating better carbohydrate tolerance during this season.

Partially SupportedTraditional Chinese Medicine recommends consuming pumpkin, squash, and pancreas for upper gastrointestinal issues.

Partially SupportedTraditional Chinese Medicine recommends supporting the kidney and adrenal systems with organ meats and foods high in B vitamins.

Partially SupportedCandida overgrowth and excess mucus in the colon are considered forms of 'dampness' in TCM, contributing to issues like Crohn's and ulcerative colitis.

Partially SupportedSeasonal eating guided by individual constitution and seasonal availability is a principle of Chinese medicine for vegetable consumption.

Partially SupportedIn the spring, Josh Axe incorporates more green foods, aligning with Chinese medicine recommendations for that season.

Partially SupportedThe impact of phytonutrients and compounds from plants and animals varies individually.

Not SupportedAntibiotics and metformin deplete the body of CoQ10, potentially leading to a weakened heart, increased risk of high blood pressure and high cholesterol, and depletion of folate and B12.

Not SupportedIndividuals with a 'wood element' constitution in TCM may not tolerate a ketogenic diet well due to increased stress on the liver and gallbladder.

Partially SupportedIn TCM, hypothyroidism is understood as Qi and Yang deficiency.

Partially SupportedCurcumin can affect gene expression (p53), potassium channels, and topoisomerases.

Partially SupportedThe body may not effectively utilize curcumin from turmeric without enhancers.

Not SupportedCayenne pepper should be used only in specific dosages and may be detrimental for approximately 50% of people according to TCM, as it can exacerbate 'heat' in the body.

Partially SupportedJosh Axe's current diet consists primarily of meat and organs, with occasional honey, seasonal fruit, and pressure-cooked squash.

Partially SupportedAddressing the root cause of a disease can lead to rapid healing.

Not SupportedAntibiotic use depletes the body of folate, B vitamins (B1, B2, B6, B12), calcium, magnesium, and potassium, potentially leading to deficiencies that increase the risk of autoimmune disease and cancer.

Partially SupportedIn Traditional Chinese Medicine, Hashimoto's thyroiditis originates from gut inflammation and adrenal gland issues.

Partially SupportedHeart issues may be managed with garlic extract, fish oil, turmeric, and hawthorne, avoiding blood thinners like Coumadin.

Partially SupportedTraditional Chinese Medicine categorizes the body into five interconnected organ systems: cardiovascular, immune, detoxification, upper digestive, and hormonal.

Partially SupportedWorry can negatively affect the upper gastrointestinal system, leading to upset stomachs.

Partially SupportedCycling carbohydrates seasonally, with fruit or honey in summer and squash or less toxic carbohydrates in winter, aligns with seasonal eating principles.

Partially SupportedPlant molecules may not always address the root cause of inflammation or autoimmunity, which are often linked to immunologic activation or nutrient deficiencies.

Partially SupportedCBD or cannabinoids might be considered as alternatives to synthetic opiates or NSAIDs for severe pain.

Partially SupportedTCM considers Yin and Yang and Qi as key factors in health, totaling nine diagnostic elements.

Not SupportedConsuming large amounts of carbohydrates at 9 PM is detrimental because the pancreas is down and regenerating.

Partially SupportedTraditional Chinese Medicine recommends ocean-sourced foods like salmon, fish, seaweed, miso, and natto to support the kidney and water element.

Not SupportedExcessive fat consumption can cause disease in the liver and gallbladder for individuals with a 'wood element' constitution.

Partially SupportedAccording to Chinese medicine, the pancreas and stomach are strongest between 7-9 AM, making this the optimal time to consume carbohydrates.

Partially SupportedWarming foods like garlic, oil of oregano, cinnamon, ginger, and chicken soup are recommended to combat a cold.