Andrew Huberman· PhD
The physical dependence feeling um that most people will report is very similar to that. And and I I get caught making this comparison many times because people that are using leaf material, excuse me, if they get up in the morning and they want to go get their leaf material, they're not drinking coffee, they're drinking credum orratom and they they have a headache or they feel miserable if they don't get that into them. very similar to what we would get with a caffeine withdrawal um or physical dependence on caffeine. Now, I can't speak to how much intense that gets as you start to ramp up into those various products because we don't have good reports around those. But I can tell you that anecdotally people have said they get more restless leg syndrome. they get more severe type physical dependence signs which restless leg is much more related to a opioid withdrawal type issue than it is to a coffee withdrawal issue.