LDL's involvement in atherosclerosis is likely that of a fireman responding to a fire, not the cause of the fire itself.

“When people in the mainstream medical community say LDL causes atherosclerosis I say that is an inaccurate statement that it's an imprecise misleading statement that is a um that that's that's false LDL doesn't cause atherosclerosis apob particles don't cause atherosclerosis they may get pulled into the process of wound repair in the arterial wall and if that process is dysfunctional and if that LDL is more likely to be oxidized then they may be involved but there's no evidence that these aob particles are directly injurious to the endothelium”

“LDL doesn't cause atherosclerosis apob particles don't cause atherosclerosis they may get pulled into the process of wound repair in the arterial wall and if that process is dysfunctional and if that LDL is more likely to be oxidized then they may be involved but there's no evidence that these aob particles are directly injurious to the endothelium”

“how can you say that is LDL is not a risk factor for cardiovascular disease because it's well it oxidizes inside the arterial wall if that's what you mean yes absolutely yeah but not it's not circulating no no oxidized no but yeah they're talking about the propensity of LDL to oxidize in the arterial because there's solid evidence that increased linoleic acid in the human diet will increase the propensity of LDL yeah I mean we'll get it we can get into seed oils yeah we'll get into the linoleic acid on Steve oils that's not a problem but inside the arterial wall is a different story I thought you meant like circulating oxidizer in the arterial wall that made big Pharma and big laboratory a lot of money but it was a useless test”