in the early 1990s uh the NIH said look we haven't really studied this you know we have a ton of epidemiology that says giving women hormones seems to be doing really good things they feel better so they're all their symptoms go away they seem to have lower risk of heart disease lower risk of you know cardiovascular lower risk of cardiovascular these lower risk of bone fractures um everything seems to get better low risk of diabetes but we haven't tested this in a randomized prospective trial so let's do this so that became the Whi