Excessive fructose and sugars, and the body's insulin response, are the primary issues related to carbohydrates and metabolic dysfunction.

“that that is almost certainly the way it works that the carbs per se are not the problem it's what you do in terms of insulin signaling from those carbs and if you resist them you find because you're eating saturated fat if you respond to them inade inappropriately and store more fat then you've lost the fat into your bread emphasize you're still hungry”