Teenagers often engage in obsessive practice for activities like playing guitar, gymnastics, or pro-social hacking, which requires significant learning and effort.

“I think the same thing is true for lots of things that teenagers trial could be playing guitar you know could be gymnastics I mean think about how many of their Olympic athletes are like 14 right and they're waking up at 4 in the morning they're practicing obsessively how many like pro-social hackers who take down evil foreign governments right are teenagers right there things that that take so much practice and so much learning happen at the exact same age as adults are saying these kids are lazy and don't want to work”