A sense of hope can be maintained by recognizing that a solution is likely attainable when encountering friction points.

“Yeah, when it's not right, it's definitely evasive, it doesn't feel good, but there's also a hope because I know I can solve it too, and it's almost like you're almost there. There's a path that you know is there, you don't quite see it, but it's there. And I keep that in mind, and so there's this propulsive force forward because I know that the solution is there.”