A healthy diet featuring meat and organs, with no processed sugar or seed oils, would not be outperformed by a vegan diet.

“there's no health food diet in the mainstream that includes meat yet that's what i wanted to create with an animal-based diet i want them to do that experiment on the bbc with a guy going vegan and a guy going animal-based quote-unquote which is meat or against fruit honey and raw dairy show me someone doing a healthy diet which in both of our definitions is no processed sugar no seed oils with meat and organs show me someone where a vegan outperforms them that is i don't think that would ever happen”