Excessive meat, fats, and cheeses may increase inflammatory markers, with fish being a more ideal option.

“even though he did highlight all of the concerns around plant foods he has also done work and does a lot of work with EPO we for people with heart disease and inflammation and he sees excessive meats fats and cheeses particularly can make their inflammatory markers go up and go in the wrong direction so it's like this could be the exception that proves the rule that if you've sustained metabolic damage from bad foods over decades that particularly cheese's and rich protein and fatty foods may not be ideal for you maybe fish and things like that more ideal”