Phytochemicals in plants are redundant for hormetic benefits like NRF2 activation and increased glutathione production, as these benefits can be obtained from ancestral human practices such as heat, cold, exercise, sun exposure, and fasting.

“is it possible that there's some healthy user bias here or some unhealthy user bias here because I believe what's happening in the study is that there is healthy user bias and unhealthy user bias meaning that the people who are eating more protein are doing more unhealthy behaviors it is impossible to tease these two things out and the people that are eating less protein are doing more healthy behaviors and that is why we see a reduction in cancer and mortality less than 65.”