Nourishing foods can taste very good once the palate is accustomed to them and is not simultaneously consuming junk food.

“If you think apple or an orange or a banana or a steak or cantaloupe or squash or potatoes are boring, we've already lost. So, I disagree with that. I think eating nourishing food, getting rid of the garbage helps you differentiate signal from noise and you'll understand that nourishing food actually tastes very good. You just can't be eating a bunch of junk at the same time.”