The ideal anabolic agent would segregate anabolic from androgenic activity, aiming for maximum anabolic outcomes with minimal androgenic outcomes.

“the ideal scenario would be you're trying to segregate the anabolic from androgenic activity because testosterone is essentially equal at least based on rodent studies you would find an equal amount of anabolic activity in muscle relative to Androgen like activity masculinization so you would try and take the compound manipulate it to give maximum anabolic outcomes with a relative lack of androgenic outcomes to create something that men women children anybody could take for muscle wasting purposes and tissue and they never successfully did it”