so does that mean that rapid eye movement sleep in people with PTSD is not truly rapid eye movement sleep it's as if it's been abolished and replaced with something that's kind of pseudo waking stress invaded you know it's like a zombie REM um and it's not good is that is that is that correct it seems to be an and you can look at this in terms of the electrical activity of REM sleep the electrical brain waves of R sleep in these patients and you're right it doesn't seem to be of the same electrical quality