Andrew Huberman· PhD
he would take individuals because we didn't really have the first published report of these two types of sleep of REM and non-rem until they collected the data or found the data in 1953 it was published in 1954 so in other words we discovered that you know even up to then prior to then we just thought sleep was sleep we didn't have any knowledge that the these different stages so in the same year that um Francis Crick you know un unveiled this incredible helical structure that was called a DNA strand we also discovered the different stages of sleep but in the 60s then William DeMent knowing that there were these two types of sleep and knowing that there was something that was going on with REM sleep were people were dreaming and he would be waking people up from these different stages and found that it's far more likely to for people to report a dream