In the general Westernized population, individuals who eat red meat often consume it as part of a meal with processed foods rather than as a standalone healthy food.

“how often do you see someone go to mcdonald's and eat meat never they always eat a hamburger with a bun and special sauce which has seed oils and french fries which are cooked in soybean oil along with a milkshake with a bunch of processed sugar and probably a soft serve ice cream at the end with uh you know a cone and so it's this is why i think that these studies even get published or talked about in the media”