The concept of toxicity is dose-dependent, as seen with the zinc and copper ratio, where excess zinc can lead to copper deficiency.

“I mean you know that the the nature of a poison isn't so much the you know it's it's a dosage not the not the you know the concept of the talks in the first place we see that all the time actually we see that with micronutrients I mean zinc and copper is a great thing I don't want to DX too but I mean you're right it's zinc is not a toxin by itself it's not an oxidative stress er but if you overfeed someone zinc they'll get a topper deficient yeah so you have to have the zinc plus copper”