it is not going to work as an acute response so it's not something you're like I feel terrible let me throw some creatine Down the Hatch I'll feel better that that's not going to work it's going to take several weeks to have a noticeable effect it needs to be stored in tissue uh it needs to be built up before you can actually do much of anything so it is unlike some of the other things like stimulants or caffeine that have an acute you know response right now