if you have your arms a little bit in front of you this will encourage what we call upwards rotation and that will almost entirely disconnect elevator so we want downwards rotation which tends to be viewed as bad scapular positioning that's what we want for this so we put the elbow backwards you can see my shoulder blade points forward in the trajectory that I wanted to whereas it points backwards to see that's when I pull forward that's a clue so I put my elbow back my wrist back neck long and I pull towards my nose with this trajectory all the way forward and slightly up