Suffering is not necessarily required to live longer through dietary restriction.

“so the whole thing about eating less and suffering in order for you to live longer I think it goes back to this idea that for some reason the Western societies have are stuck on it is basically no pain nor gain no pain no gain right um and also this this kind of morphed into even more uh perverse idea which is basically saying now more pain more gain neither one of these is necessarily true especially the latter one is definitely not true about the you know no pain no gain I think there is some validity to that in life but not not necessarily in regards to eating and extending your lifespan”